hello everyone welcome to another
episode of this series that we’ve been
going through myself and our dear
brother dr. David Wood in relationship
to many of the arguments raised by our
Muslim friend I’m your host al fatty and
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today we are going to talk about an
interesting of course argument that you
hear about over and over again has to do
with the idea that Mohammed is found in
the Bible and let me tell you this as a
form of Muslim I honestly find this
argument laughable for a one reason the
reason is I’ve always believed the Bible
is corrupt so how can I go to the Bible
to try to find something that supports
my own belief when I’ve already
discounted the source that I want to use
to prove my own belief with that in mind
I want to turn it over to dr. David Wood
well you’re you’re you’re absolutely
correct there in the absurdity of so
many Muslims claiming that the Bible’s
been corrupted and then trying to show
us from the Bible that Muhammad was a
true prophet I mean even if you did find
something in the Bible saying that
Muhammad was a prophet if Muslims are
also saying that the Bible’s been
corrupted how would we know that that’s
not one of the corrupted parts but this
is Muslims do use this argument and
there’s a reason Muslims use this
argument the reason is that it comes
from the Quran it’s a claim from the
Quran that the Bible contains prophecies
about the coming of Muhammad and this
has to be in both the Old and New
Testament so let’s turn to the Quran to
see what Allah says about the Torah and
Quran
the gospel chapter verse of the
Quran says that those who follow the
messenger the unlettered prophet whom
they find mentioned in their own
in the Torah and the gospel it is they
who will prosper
so notice a couple things this means one
it means that Jews and Christians still
had the Torah and the gospel during the
time of Muhammad so that means that the
Torah in the gospel had been transmitted
down to the seventh century at least and
that’s interesting because we have
copies of the Torah and the gospel from
before that time so we know what the
tour in the gospel of the seventh
century said but it’s also interesting
and that it gives us a way to test
Muhammad’s revelations right if I say
hey I mentioned in the Bible or I
mentioned here I’m giving you an
opportunity to investigate my claims and
so the Quran here gives us an
opportunity to test whether Mohammed was
a true prophet
now Muslims for centuries have been
looking through the Bible to try and
find where it talks about Muhammad there
are many of these places we don’t have
time to go through all of them but we’ll
go through the best we’ll go through the
best according to them in other words if
you look up what this verse is talking
about in Yusuf Ali’s edition of the
Koran or many other editions of the
Quran when it says that Muhammad is
found in the Torah and the gospel they
give two main passages one from the
Torah one from the Gospel as their main
proof that Muhammad is mentioned in our
scriptures and so the main passages they
give are one from Deuteronomy and one
from John chapter so the Torah and
the gospel so we’ll look at the best we
won’t look through all of them we can do
that later but right now we want to look
at the best ones so the top prophecy
from the Torah is Deuteronomy chapter
Deuteronomy
verse some Muslims will also put
Deuteronomy which basically say
the same thing that God’s going to send
a prophet like Moses so Deuteronomy
verse the Lord your God will raise up
for you a prophet like me Moses speaking
the Lord your God will raise up for you
a prophet like me from among you
from your countrymen you shall listen to
him right now there are so many problems
with claiming that this is about
Mohammed but Muslims still argue it and
they’ll they’ll use arguments along the
lines of Moses was a political leader
and a military leader and a prophet saw
all simultaneously Mohammed and Moses
were like each other in this sense
because that’s what Mohammed was too
they both delivered a law to their
people so look at the similarities this
is what this is saying now just by
reading the verse you can already see
some of the problems a prophet like me
from among you who’s he talking to
he’s talking to he’s talking to Jews
from your countrymen which this
translates in his country it’s actually
brethren and Muslims will argue that
brethren here refers to their brethren
the Ishmaelites now the problem is
anytime anytime the Torah is talking
about someone someone else because they
are their brethren in a sense they’re
they’re their relatives it will say your
brethren who are and it will specify the
other group when it just says brethren
as it does even in the same chapter it’s
talking about your fellow Jews the
tribes primarily mm-hmm and so even even
if you just read what this is saying no
no Jew during this time would have
thought oh this is talking about a
prophet coming from among the Arabs
, years from now would have never
entered anyone’s mind and the setting is
important this is in the wilderness
they’re prepared to enter into the
prophet into the Promised Land where is
– male lies here there is no shamea
lights whatsoever yeah
and so even if we just read the verse
there’s something strange about
appealing to this but Muslims will say
Muhammad was like Moses in various ways
and and you can see why they would argue
that Muhammad and Moses were similar in
certain ways the problem of course is
that when the Bible talks about a
prophet like Moses we know what that
phrase like Moses meant in this context
and we know it from the book of
Deuteronomy itself this same book tells
us what this is referring to when it’s
talking about someone coming
like Moses correct so we’ll turn to the
net
verse Deuteronomy chapter verses
through this is the very end and says
that this prophet hasn’t arisen right
the prophet like Moses hasn’t come yet
says since that time no prophet has
risen in Israel like Moses notice like
Moses oh they’re talking about the
prophet like Moses since that time no
prophet has risen in Israel like Moses
whom the Lord knew face to face for all
the signs and wonders which the Lord
sent him to perform in the land of
Israel against Pharaoh all his servants
and all his land and for all the mighty
and for all the great terror which Moses
performed in the sight of Israel so
someone the Lord knew face to face and
for all the signs and wonders so many
signs and wonders that they would
terrify the unbelievers right right so
is that Muhammad right did Muhammad
perform miracles we just cover that we
have covered that right I’m I didn’t
have a single one so Muhammad performed
zero miracles so he certainly isn’t like
Moses in that sense what about knowing
the Lord face to face yeah Muhammad know
the Lord face to face absolutely not
Ayesha said in some traditions that he
never spoke to his Lord face to face we
know that it’s Gabriel that was
communicating with him so even according
to Muslim sources Allah doesn’t come to
Muhammad that’s right Allah sends a
messenger to Muhammad so is Muhammad the
prophet like Moses when we look at what
that phrase like Moses means in the
context of Deuteronomy can’t be wrong
God right so whoever this is applying to
and the apostles of Jesus believed it
was applying to him right he’s the one
who has such a close relationship with
the father that he can communicate we in
a special way with the father but also
Jesus is performing signs and wonders in
the presence of Israel so just looking
at what that means in the context of the
book of Deuteronomy makes absolutely no
sense but there’s another problem is
that the very same
passage Deuteronomy the very same
passage rules out Muhammad as a prophet
according to Deuteronomy Muhammad
can’t be a prophet at all
and here I’m referring to Deuteronomy
chapter verse so in in Deuteronomy
we find that that that God’s going
to send a prophet like Moses repeats it
in Deuteronomy right and then just
two verses later in the same passage
right we find this God says the same God
False Prophets
who says he’s sending a prophet like
Moses says but the prophet who speaks a
word presumptuously in my name which I
have not commanded him to speak or which
he speaks and the name of other gods
that prophet shall die so the same God
who says he’s sending a prophet like
Moses says I’m giving you two criteria
here that will allow you to spot a false
prophet
correct and the two criteria we have
here are if he speaks a word
presumptuously in my name which I have
not commanded him to speak so if he
gives a revelation and says this
revelation is from God and it’s not
actually from God that’s a false prophet
right or which he speaks in the name of
other gods so you promote polytheism
then you’re a false prophet so if you
speak in the name of other gods or you
deliver a message and say it’s from God
then it doesn’t actually come from God
you’re a false prophet why is this
important because Mohammed did both and
I’m not just referring to to the Quran
or something like that I mean even
according to Muslim sources Muhammad
promoted polytheism and he delivered a
revelation that didn’t come from God and
here I’m referring to what are called
the Satanic Verses
correct according to Muslim sources and
I have Muslim sources on the Satanic
Verses
and you can see how the story changed
over time the earliest versions of the
story Mohammed is receiving he’s
receiving verses of the Quran and then
Satan steps in tricks him into affirming
prayers to Allah a loose and manat
so these are the exalted cranes whose
intercession is to be hoped for exalted
cranes meaning their blackbirds who can
carry your prayers to Allah and so what
was saying is they’re basically
intercessors yes you still believe in
Allah but there are intercessors between
you and Allah the the goddesses a lot a
loose and manat so you can now pray to
them because they will take your prayers
to Allah and so Mohammed delivers this
to his followers he bows down in honor
of the revelation and his followers bow
down with him but here’s what’s
interesting the pagans bow down as well
the polytheists of Mecca bow down in
honor of the revelation as well because
they were overjoyed that Mohammed was
now affirming their goddesses so this is
according to the earliest versions of
the story
Muhammad receives this revelation his
followers bow down and the the
polytheists bow down as well but some
time later Gabriel comes to him and says
hey those verses that you revealed to
your followers saying that they can now
pray to Allah to loosen the knot Satan
tricked you into doing that Satan gave
you those verses so a couple of problems
here already one Muhammad couldn’t tell
the difference between the revelation
from God a revelation from Satan in
other words Satan could trick and
deceive him he supposedly God’s greatest
prophet according to Muslims but he
couldn’t tell the difference between a
revelation from God and a revelation
from Satan that’s according to Muslim
sources not according to me although I
agree so Muhammad receives this
revelation and then of course he repents
and those verses are wiped out of the
Quran and you still have the reference
to a lot to lose them or not but the
meaning changes by removing the part
about them being the exalted cranes and
so but what do you have here you have
Muhammad delivering a revelation that
doesn’t come from God and saying it’s a
revelation from God and you have
Muhammad promoting polytheism and saying
that you can now pray to these goddesses
and what’s interesting here is when we
read this in the context of Deuteronomy
saying that these are the criteria of a
false prophet and then we turn to the
history of October T which gives us
Muhammad
reaction once gabriel rebukes him for
promoting this message correct Muhammad
says this is the history of october t
volume page you can look up the
history of october dates available in
Muhammad is a False Prophet
PDF online go to chapter william page
where Muhammad says after the story
of the Satanic Verses he says I have
fabricated things against God and have
imputed to him words which he has not
spoken this is Mohammed saying he
delivered a revelation that didn’t come
from God
what was that revelation about it was
about praying to other goddesses
according to deuteronomy Muhammad is a
false prophet and Muslims claim that
they reverence and have respect for
Moses Moses would have told people to
pick up stones in stone Muhammad to
death as a false prophet for delivering
these verses but so Muhammad should be
overjoyed that he was among polytheists
instead of among Mo’s instead of around
Moses and his followers because they
would not have tolerated this sort of
thing oops I couldn’t I’m sorry I’m a
prophet but I can’t tell the difference
between a revelation from God and a
revelation from Satan that’s why I
firmed polytheism told you all it’s ok
to to pray to goddess is but you know I
changed my mind now the Gabriel came and
told me of course I can’t tell the
difference between a revelation that’s
coming through Gabriel and one coming
from Satan but you know Gabriel tell
it’s incoherent right they wouldn’t have
tolerated this so absolutely no notice
Islam’s best passage the favorite
passage of Muslims from the Old
Testament the prophet like Moses if you
just read the rest of the passage and
know anything about Islamic history the
passage doesn’t affirm Muhammad as a
prophet the passage says that Muhammad
was a false prophet it would have been
executed and during the time of Moses
and that’s basically selective
apologetics and do we ever find anything
else when we’re dealing with this
argument and from Muslims so notice
that’s the best one the best passage
after centuries of examining the
Bible the best Old Testament passage
Muslims can come up with to show that
Muhammad as a prophet was a passage that
specifically says Muhammad is a false
prophet who would have been executed
variously the other art
that I find baffling to me in the
scripture in the Bible for instance
whenever God wants to point to something
that was mentioned about a particular
event or a person usually that is quoted
or referred to one way or another here
we don’t find even a hint to dharana me
or Deuteronomy in the Koran
yes I mentioned that he is in their
books so what which books are we talking
to the Talmud we talking the Midrash the
Mishnah I didn’t know the difference
between them right exactly yeah he
quotes from that from the Talmud and all
kinds of sources and doesn’t know the
difference between them exactly so
that’s their best from the Old Testament
now what about their best verse from the
New Testament here of course is the
claim that Muhammad is the comforter of
John now by the way playing around
with passages that are about the Holy
Spirit would that be a good idea
according to Christianity of course not
oh yeah that’d be that’d be pretty bad
ladies and gentlemen that would be about
as blasphemous as you can get but most
Muslims don’t know what they’re doing
here so let’s uh let’s be patient with
them and read the passage so this is
John chapter verses to Jesus is
John
about to be taken away so his followers
are upset because he’s told them he’s
about to go he’s been announcing to them
that he’s going to die first they don’t
know what he’s talking about then it
finally starts setting in what he’s what
he’s actually telling them and he’s
telling them don’t be upset it’s not
like I’m just gone forever I’m going to
send you the comforter and so John
chapter here Jesus says I will ask
the Father and He will give you another
helper or comforter the Greek word is
Paraclete I will give you another helper
that he may be with you forever that is
now notice he identifies the helper as
that is the Spirit of Truth whom the
world cannot receive because it does not
see him or know him but you know him
because he abides with you and will be
you this is their best passage to apply
to Mohammed now if we even here again if
we just read the passage all sorts of
things jump out which should tell us
instantly this has nothing to do with
Mohammed
so what Jesus says I will ask the father
is God our Father according to Islam God
the Quran says allows a father to know
what so what what what is Jesus you’re
doing referring to God is father and he
will give you another helper that he may
be with you forever Jesus is talking to
his apostles here was Muhammad with
Jesus followers forever in what sense
was Muhammad with Jesus followers
forever because I mean that’s what
Muslims will try to say they’ll try and
say oh well you know because the you
know Jesus delivered the truth about
Muhammad and so the truth of Muhammad
it doesn’t say you know facts about him
or it says he will be with you he will
be with you right and so Muhammad if
this is Muhammad then Muhammad will be
with you forever
with Jesus apostles who died centuries
before Muhammad came along then we have
that as the Spirit of Truth
so here they’ll say Oh Muhammad was the
Spirit of Truth no this is just silly
start talking about Muhammad as the
spirit whom the world cannot receive
because it does not see him last time I
checked the world did see Muhammad or no
him but you know him the Apostles know
him because he abides with you Muhammad
abides with Jesus followers and will be
in you wait a minute Muhammad abides
with Jesus first century followers his
apostles years before his coming
and is going to be in the Apostles what
what is this this makes absolutely no
sense to think that this is referring to
Muhammad but it gets even better because
notice here in verse says he the
John
father will give you another helper
right in this same passage as Jesus
continues we have John chapter verse
Jesus says but I tell you the truth it
is to your advantage that I go away for
if I do not go away the helper will not
come to
you but if I go I will send him to you I
will send him to you now l-fatiha
according to Islam who sent Muhammad
Allah sent Muhammad Allah sent Muhammad
that’s right so Muhammad is sent by
Allah correct Allah is the one who sent
Muhammad according to Jesus here Jesus
says if I go I will send him to you
so the helper the comforter is sent by
who by Jesus
so Jesus sends the comforter that’s
correct the comforter is sent by Jesus
so let me get this straight
Muhammad is sent by Allah that’s right
the comforter is sent by Jesus that’s
correct
now if the comforter is sent by Jesus
and Muhammad is sent by Allah then if
the comforter is Muhammad who would that
make Jesus that God of Muhammad so Jesus
according to Islam’s most trusted
prophecy about Muhammad in the gospel
Jesus is the God of Muhammad who sent
him absolutely and it backfires yet
again and so any Muslim any Muslim who
uses this argument we can say you’ve
just identified Jesus as your God thank
you for supporting the Christian message
things about the deity of Christ
now you’ve committed shirk now you have
to abandon Muhammad as a false prophet
and reject his Quran in his revelation
that’s correct and so it what’s what’s
really interesting here if Muslims would
just not pick and choose and be so
selective and oh here’s a part of a
verse I can use without actually reading
the passage notice Jesus says in in
chapter that the father will send him
and in chapter Jesus says that that
he will send him the father and son
together send the comforter that’s right
who is the Spirit of Truth the Holy
Spirit this passage is thoroughly
Trinitarian no no you
can’t understand you can’t make sense of
this passage apart from a doctrine like
the doctrine of the Trinity yes and this
is the place where Muslims go to try and
pull something out that supports Islam
not realizing that if we even took their
argument seriously if we even said for a
second Muhammad is the comforter well
then if Muhammad’s the comfort of and he
sent by Jesus and the father and
therefore that would make Muhammad the
holy spirit we have to reject Islam
because we still have we still have the
Trinity right and that would be that
would be false according to the Quran so
if we accept the Muslim argument we have
to reject Islam and reject Muhammad as a
prophet but I mean apart from that I
mean look at the book they’re going to
write the book starts off by affirming
the deity of Christ in chapter one it
ends with Thomas’s confession that Jesus
is his Lord and his God Jesus dies on
the cross for sins in this book over and
over again we have affirmations of Jesus
death resurrection and deity in this
book which thoroughly contradict the
Islamic message about Jesus
Muslims go right into the middle of this
book rip something completely out of
context totally distort the meaning and
that’s supposedly the proof of Islam
well guess what if that’s the proof of
Islam then Muslims have a have a serious
problem here right because that’s
correct Allah based the truth of his
religion on this Allah says you go to
that book you’re gonna you’re gonna find
references to Muhammad well we’ve looked
at the best – and not only the best to
not show that Mohammed is a prophet if
we look at their best – we find Muhammad
can’t be a prophet Old Testament or New
Testament according to the Bible
Muhammad was a false prophet and if you
know nothing else about Islam if all you
know about Islam is that Allah says go
to the Bible to learn the truth about
his prophet and when we go to the Bible
it’s one constant affirmation that
Muhammad’s a false prophet you already
know you already know that Islam cannot
be the truth and so any Muslim who wants
to know the truth about God about Jesus
you have to go somewhere else
somewhere other than Muhammad and the
Quran absolutely and also I kind of
laugh when Muslims whenever you pick up
verse from the Quran they tell you have
to put it in context so let’s put the
John in context in John the
Lord says I am the way the truth and the
life no one comes to the Father except
by me there you have the context by the
way aren’t those titles of Allah
exactly yeah absolutely so it’s obvious
that Muslims acknowledge that Jesus is
the way to heaven and I acknowledge that
God is called the father at the same
time so you cannot pick and choose you
cannot just selectively say I like this
but I don’t like that the Bible is
corrupt except for these passages and
those can go on and on now ladies and
gentleman hopefully you’ve enjoyed this
particular episode obviously this is a
deep topic there are so many other
passages Muslims typically use from the
Bible
for now you can go ahead and Google that
advise you to go for instance to a
number of websites that are very
reputable like answering – Islam org our
brothers for instance website which is
answering Muslims com
and there are many other reputable
websites that deal with that but Lord
willing in the future we will take care
of all of those one by one but these two
passages that we mentioned to you
Neutron Deuteronomy and in John
the two top passages used by our Muslim
friends
so hopefully you find this explanation
very helpful to you and don’t be
surprised if a Muslim that you’re
dealing with brings up this idea that
Muhammad is in the Bible when just
earlier told you that the Bible is
corrupt don’t blame them that’s what
they’re told and with that says I look
forward of course to doing more episodes
with you brother can you give our
audience another basically a topic that
we might address in your future well the
the next topic we’ll be covering it sort
of sort of ends the main arguments right
there are other Muslim arguments but
this sort of closes out the ones you
hear constantly and that of course is
the the argument from scientific
accuracy the claim that the Quran is
filled with miraculous
scientific insights and that Muhammad
made miraculous scientific claims which
weren’t verified until centuries after
his death and therefore he must be a
prophet so this will be checking out
next thank you so much and thank you to
all of you until we meet again have a
blessed day